There were apparently two Johns of Hastings, one who was sheriff of the Mearns probably in the 1170s and witnessed royal charters from then until about 1205, and another who witnessed charters between the 1230s and 1250s. It is impossible to tell whether this John is one of these two or perhaps a third intervening John. William son of Bernard seems to appear mostly in the 1210s and 1220s. Walter Scot II of Allardice succeeded after his father Walter Scot I’s death in 1198 and the next known member of the family (Hugh Scot) is not until the 1240s. Hugh of Calder seems to have been of the same generation as Humphrey of Berkeley, appearing mainly in the last two decades of William’s reign. Humphrey of Berkeley apparently dead by 1214, when his brother John made an agreement with Arbroath Abbey (BL Arb. Cart., fo. 152r).